so I saw this post earlier about Moorish people in Europe and, like, dressmaker’s receipts? couldn’t find it but anyway, the receipts would have something like “Sarah (More)” or “Rebecca le Moor” or whatever
and it made me think that usually we think of the surnames Moore or More as derived from the land feature, you know, shortened down from “of/near the moors,” and that’s definitely a thing that happened
but then I thought well, how many white people of European ancestry with those names actually have a black great-great-etc-grandparent somewhere whose appellation survived and was changed from “the Moor” to just “Moore”?
idk if this really means anything except that we tend to erase the presence of black people in Europe even though there was that whole thing with Spain (among other things), and the surnames Moore or More might be an indicator of black European presence in some cases
Interesting! I’ve wondered the same thing before about the commonality of Black (or Lenoir, Schwartz, Chernov) as a surname across many European cultures.
Duh, how did I not think of that? It’s only blindingly obvious.
I mean, it’s also possible that black could refer to someone’s hair or whatever, and for historical figures sometimes it means they were real bad guys, but I think people assume that that’s always what it means when that’s not necessarily the case. Sort of like how in European literature when someone is described as “brown” or even “black” modern readers assume that means “tan with dark hair.”
…I never thought of this. And in Spanish we actually have the last name “Moro” (=Moor in Sp) straight up without any graphematic nor phonemic alterations. Not at all surprising considering the influence they had for many centuries in southern Spain, but it’s not like that’s ever mentioned in history lessons either
I’m thinking about choosing one of the texts making the rounds in FB/ indy media and translating it, maybe post it here. I mean, I don’t think there’s really an audience for sth like that but it feels like the thing to do
that’s what my education is for, after all, what I’m studying to be. it’s not much, but it’s what I can do, what I can offer from the sidelines
Ok. I feel calmer now. I’ve been reading up on what happened and talking to my friends back home and just… digesting.
The big crisis, the explosion, is over, but the aftermath and the repercusions of this whole thing are still up in the air. One thing seems pretty clear, tho. In the single most regressive province, heart of the soy and monsanto conflicts, with the strongest and most represive police force, everything’s lining up to give them more legitimacy and maybe even reinforce already insanely racist, classist laws that target the most underprivileged population (seriously, the police can basically detain anyone they think looks suspicious. that’s it. that’s the fucking code).
thejollyape replied to your post “FUCK. Just… the police went on strike in my city in Argentina. There…”
I wanna say something helpful, hopeful. But I just realised how small my voice is. I can’t even imagine the frustration and anger so it becomes even smaller.
actually that’s a pretty accurate description of how I feel right now, too, especially this far away. but i do appreciate the sentiment very much. thank you :)
si tengo que leer a una sola persona más culpando a los “negros de mierda” me va a explotar la cabeza
shesmoved-on replied to your post “and of course now that the strike is over, the police is going back…”
I’m sorry to hear all of this : (. Sometimes I feel that we should just burn down the fucking goverment. To hell with decency, they dont have it.
i swear right now I wouldn’t be so opposed to that… I’m just so angry and frustrated. This whole thing is the consequence of them giving the police more and more power and just… it’s a crisis, a power play between them, and they have a whole city, a whole province, caught in the crossfire
and of course now that the strike is over, the police is going back into the streets to “find the perpetrators” of the loots and “make them accountable” and that just means more repression and violence in the poorer neighbourhoods
meanwhile there are a ton of witnesses who saw people looting AND GETTING INTO A FUCKING AUDI
FUCK. Just… the police went on strike in my city in Argentina. There were riots and lootings and someone died. People took to defending themselves, barricading streets and with weapons. They beat up “suspicious” people, obviously anyone who looked poor. At least one person died.
And as usual people are misplacing blame and the fucking Governor who is deeply involved with narcs will of course take no reponsability and everything is fucking chaos and just FUCK